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Copied from Wikipedia -- 15:49, 30 March 2005 Balzac

Opinions / Personal Experiences spin-off page

It would be interesting to have a new page (if anyone would like to write it) giving personal opinions on why people find the Gore books and lifestyle so attractive. Many of us who are not John Norman fans find it difficult to grasp why these books have such a loyal following and this could enhance our understanding. The page might be called Gore (opinions). Because it is opinion and not fact I feel it should be kept on a separate page from the main article. I think it should also be restricted to comments from people who embrace the lifestyle / philosophy. Balzac 08:30, 7 Apr 2005 (BST)

Good idea but wouldn't it be better to keep consistent with other pages? After your previous suggestion, I created a link to Personal Experiences (see Ownership). This would imply a page of Gor - Personal Exeriences. Calling it Personal Experiences is likely to encourage the kind of writing you want, too, as we all have opinions! --Interesdom 13:28, 7 Apr 2005 (BST)
Balzac says: Well spotted! Gor - Personal Exeriences it is then. Balzac 14:14, 7 Apr 2005 (BST)

(Now Gor - Personal Experiences...) -- AnonMoos 10:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Revisions

This is based on a rather outdated version of the Wikipedia article AnonMoos 16:46, 12 September 2006 (BST)

In particular, the word "sadism" is somewhat problematic. No one would deny that in the Gor books masters are sometimes brutal towards slaves, but Norman is actually opposed to sadism according to his own personal definition of "sadism" (i.e. inflicting pain solely for the personal gratification of the master, rather than for purposes of legitimate slave training and discipline), and the goal of a good Gorean master is to get things running along smoothly so that only occasional punishment is necessary to maintain effective domination. I'll be changing that passage, but I'm not sure exactly in what way... AnonMoos 14:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, I gave it a go. Perhaps it will inspire you to a better change, if you don't like what I came up with. --Interesdom 14:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I've now included a little explanation in the "Kurt" entry of the Gor - Dictionary‎ article (in more detail than would be useful for this article). AnonMoos 02:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

relative decline in popularity of the paperback series

Another way to view this is that Norman went off on his Jason tangent in books 14-16, then went off on his "Injun" semi-tangent in books 17-18, so by the time he finally got back to the essentials of Gor in books 19-20 (which are actually among the better books in the series), a significant fraction of the casual readership (who were not hard-core Gor fans) had fallen away, and a certain backlash had begun... AnonMoos 19:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, of course, he published two books a year (instead of one) during 1981-1982, and the books started to get much longer, which contributed to a certain saturation of the market... AnonMoos (talk) 16:46, 26 December 2013 (GMT)
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